A Noble Cause Betrayed ... but Hope Lives On
Pages from a Political Life, by John Boyd
Chapter 1k
When the decline began
Q. When do you think the Communist Party
ceased to have an impact on Canadian political life?
I think it began with the start of the Cold War,
but really impacted after the exposure of Stalin's crimes. It took
another big drop in the Gorbachev period and after the break-up of the
Soviet Union. Each of these contributed to a change in people's attitude
towards the Communist Party. Belief in its lofty goals (many of which,
it turned out, were used for false and fraudulent ends) dwindled rapidly
and disappeared. All of it left a lot of confusion and questioning in
the minds of honest, progressive-thinking Canadians.
About Party and prestige
Q. I'm going to come at this from a
different angle. The Party did at one time have the attitude of labeling
the CCF as social-fascist, then, a little later, of critical support for
the NDP. But it was always hoping that eventually the workers in the CCF
would be won over, that, I guess as Lenin predicted, the more knowledge
they got, the more naturally they would become Communist. A number of
those on the left who weren't members of the Party had a high regard for
it because of its discipline, because they thought democratic centralism
was a good idea, and they probably were impressed by some aspects of
vanguardism. So if the Party didn't create prestige for itself but was
accorded some prestige by friends on the left, how do you explain that
phenomenon?
Well, I know that in France and in some other
countries in Europe many leading artists, writers and scientists
favoured the Party because of its lofty ideals. And many of them did
indeed think there was a need for a disciplined party that knew what its
goal was. Yet at the same time the Party's dogmatism and sectarianism
worked against that. Indeed, the whole idea of a vanguard party, in my
view, is wrong. The Trotskyists too called themselves the vanguard
party. And the social democrats have always considered themselves the
vanguard party, even though they didn't use the term; they have always
felt that they were the ones who were going to lead the people to a
better society and pooh-poohed the pretensions of the Communists, the
Trotskyists, and the others.
So it still comes back to how the Communists saw
themselves. If they were supposed to be the true carriers of scientific
socialism, the onus was on them to find the ways, effective ways, of
bringing together all those who were willing to fight against
capitalism, rather than contribute to dividing them by a confrontational
approach. When the Communists, prior to and even after the war, talked
about a united front with the social democrats, in many cases it was
tongue-in-cheek. When they talked about a "united front from below," in
their minds it was a tactic wherein they would have little to do with
the leaders but hoped that they would be able to win over their rank and
file to their side. I think that most rank-and-file members of the Party
sincerely believed in the tactic, but I also believe that there was a
lot of cynicism about it in the leadership.
A matter of method
Q. If we could touch on that matter of
socialism for a second. Capitalism is not universal in its methodology
or its application. There are various forms of capital that, especially
today, compete for world dominance. Initially there was only the one
situation where a country evolved its particular form of socialism,
while the period after World War I was marked by the lack of success of
other advocates of socialism — in Germany and elsewhere in Europe. Only
one model developed, without comparators, for a number of years. Had
there been more success following World War I, we might have had a
diversity of models to pick from and perhaps more success. From as far
back as 1903, as you say, there have been bitter debates about this in
the socialist microcosm, as it were. But because there was no sort of
stage where these models could develop more fully, by having
governments, we won't know.
There is, of course, the fact that in many cases
the subjective factor came into these debates. The differences were
genuine, there were real debates on policy, tactics, and so on, yet in
retrospect they ought to have found ways of differing while still
fighting the class enemy, ways of fighting the class enemy together.
Now, I know that's somewhat idealistic and is
easier said than done. But I believe everyone on the Left didn't really
try hard enough to get consensus. Regrettably, there were a lot of power
struggles among the Parties and within each Party, as well as within the
international Communist movement, each faction or group claiming it had
the right policies and the others were wrong, off the track, or off the
"line." One could liken it to a dispute within a family; sometimes there
can be serious, even violent, differences, but for the sake of
maintaining the family unit, its members do stick together. This may not
be the best analogy, but the fact is that for all these Parties and
groups and factions on the Left, the main enemy was capitalism.
Very often, each side, and sometimes there were
three sides, of the left wing, made the other side the enemy, as Stalin
did, when for a time, prior to 1935, he got the Parties to consider the
social democrats worse than, or at best equal to, the class enemy. The
Social Democrats, of course, were no better in their attitude to the
Communists. That is what I meant when I said that the split on the Left
was one of history's great tragedies. The irony is that the right
pro-capitalist groups have often been divided on all kinds of issues,
but they always managed to be united and act in unison in opposing
socialism or any socialist ideas.
Was collapse inevitable?
Q. Do you think the collapse of the
Communist movement was inevitable, and if so, why?
Historically speaking, yes. Because the
non-democratic, overly bureaucratic nature of the regime led to the
point where it no longer had the support of the people; it couldn't
function, couldn't grow, just as eventually it wasn't able to in the
Soviet Union.
For decades, the Communist parties took their
direction from the Comintern (the 21 Points) and subsequently from the
Soviet leaders in Moscow, and were subjected to their errors and
non-democratic methods. They also became subjects of Stalin's foreign
policy. For example, the successes of the united front between the
Socialists and Communists in France and Italy were suddenly cut short by
Stalin, because his foreign policy changed, and the Communist Parties in
both countries (and others) were made to go back to their previous
policy of working alone. The Canadian Party likewise was very
subservient to the Soviet Union. As a result, no criticism of the Soviet
Union was tolerated, which had its repercussions. And this was extended
to the ethnic organizations controlled by the Party.
Moscow's hold very powerful
Q. Could anything have been done to prevent
that?
I don't think so. Because any effort to
change-things would have been resisted and denounced by Moscow. That's
why the leaders of the Party always did what Moscow would approve and
resisted anything they thought the leaders in Moscow might disapprove
of. And Kashtan was the best example of that. After 1968, leading
members of the Party like Nelson Clarke and Norman Brudy, for example,
were squeezed out of the leadership because they were critical of the
Party's policies and of the Soviet Union, as were those who challenged
the Party's policies earlier, in 1956.
And it was really difficult to shake off the hold
Moscow had on the Party, indeed on all the Parties. For example, when I
was in Prague, this question came up in a conversation I had with the
representative of the Italian Party on the magazine. He said to me:
"Look, John, our leaders — our top leaders, Togliatti before and
Berlinguer now and others — would go to Moscow and talk to the Russian
leaders behind closed doors. And they'd tell them what, in their
opinion, they were .doing wrong, what they considered harmful, or what
policies wouldn't go over in Italy. But they would simply ignore us and
keep on doing what they thought was right. So we were put in the awkward
and unenviable position: if we criticized them, we'd be joining the
anti-Soviet bandwagon; if we didn't, we were tarred with their brush."
That is why, he explained, the Italian and Spanish Parties eventually
broke away from the Moscow line and established what became known as
"Euro-Communism," much to the chagrin of Moscow and the hard-liners in
other parties, like the Canadian Party's Kashtan.
More negative than positive
Q. Do you think, overall, the Party's
negative features outweighed its contributions?
That's difficult to say. I liken it somewhat to
the fact that the Soviet people did a lot of wonderful things in spite
of Stalin. There were some great things done here by the Communists who
were in the trade unions and in all kinds of movements. Great things
were done in the name of the Communist Party for Canada and its people.
But overall, I think there were too many negative features. And they are
the chief reason why the Party didn't succeed.
During the defeat of fascism, in which the Soviet
Union played a decisive part, and in the first few years after the war,
there was a euphoria, an upsurge in the Communist Party and the
left-wing movement; in many countries Communists were elected to office,
including a few in Canada. But that didn't last long. There was the
Gouzenko affair and its aftermath, the start of the Cold War and the
McCarthy period. In many instances the capitalist media told the truth
about matters the Communist movement wanted suppressed and were
therefore very successful in painting a negative picture of the
Communist Party and its sectarian, dogmatic methods — methods that were
not readily acceptable to most Canadians.
Start with where people are
I believe you have to start from where the people
are. You can't impose your policies without regard to what people are
ready to accept. That's why those who in their views are to the left of
the NDP, for example, should be very tactful about how they criticize
the NDP. It should be done in a way that does not alienate those people
who are supporting the NDP. I'm not saying they should not criticize the
NDP. It's how they do it.
Through all history, the Communists were always
very critical of the Social Democrats, but in a way that was very
negative and subjective. The classic example was in Germany before
Hitler. Both the Communists and the Social Democrats allowed the fight
between themselves to supersede the fight against fascism. Trotsky,
while in exile, spoke out against these tactics and denounced their
intransigence on more than one occasion. And he was right.
But this same negative attitude to the Social
Democrats still persists today, even among some of those on the Left who
broke with the Communist Party. Again, I don't want to be misunderstood:
I'm not saying that Bob Rae and his government, for example, should not
have been criticized. He certainly deserved criticism for many of the
things he did, and didn't do. But it should have been done in a way that
convinces and wins over the NDP members, including Rae's supporters,
rather than alienating them.
My attitude to the Party today
Q. How would you describe your attitude to
the Communist Party of Canada as it exists today? Would you say it is
supportive, sympathetic, indifferent or hostile?
Regrettably, somewhere between indifferent and
hostile, because, from what I've seen of their activities and program, I
think they have learned nothing, or almost nothing, from the events that
have taken place. They're still as sectarian, dogmatic and rigid in
their attitude as the Party always was.
Lessons for the future
Q. What do you see as the true value and
best outcome of this interview survey?
My main hope is that the young people of the
future who want to study Marxism, who want to see a strong, viable
left-wing pro-socialist movement, will hear or read these interviews and
draw lessons from them. What form that future will take is hard to say,
but I do know that some new thinking will be required to achieve it. I
think it is very important to have a record of the way different people
thought about the Party, how it affected them, how it influenced their
lives.
The Communist movement in Canada, despite all its
negative aspects, did have many positive effects on the history of the
labour movement, and on the history of Canada generally. Especially the
role played by of the hundreds of rank-and-file members and supporters
of the Party, including those in the ethnic organizations. They also
left a legacy. Their children and grandchildren were imbued with many of
the ideas and ideals of the movement, which they are now passing on in
the various institutions and communities to which they belong, as well
as to their children and grandchildren.
Marx's theories still valid
Q. Let's deal with another aspect —
scientific socialism. If indeed Marxism is a social science, one should
be able to look at any given situation with a set of analytical tools
one has been given and be able to objectively assess the variables and
predict an outcome. What are the positive and negative aspects of
Marxism? And is the application I've just mentioned one of them?
I think that most of what Marx and Engels
projected in their time — the theory especially — is still valid.
Certainly the principles they adopted for the fight against the
capitalist system still apply.
We were told that Lenin adapted Marxism to the
age of imperialism. Well, aside from the mistakes he made in doing so
and the even greater mistakes his successors made in trying to apply his
theories, the fact is that the world has changed greatly since Lenin's
time. The age of imperialism is now the age of the transnational
corporations, which ignore entire governments and nations to achieve
their goals. Many things have changed, including the character of the
working class. In the 1920s and 1930s, for example, the Party was able
to put out a leaflet "to the workers" and it would speak in almost the
same language to the ditch-digger and the carpenter, except perhaps the
photoengraver or the railway engineer, who were then the elite of the
working class. Today you can't talk about workers in the same way. Only
a small percentage of the population, for example, is engaged in
manufacturing. There are many more categories of workers.
I think that the Left generally — this includes
the Communists and the NDP — are not sufficiently taking into account
the big changes that are now taking place in the world — the new
technological and communication revolutions and their impact on society
— and are therefore not changing with the times.
I haven't got the answers, of course, but I am
convinced that future Marxists and students of scientific socialism will
have to do some serious new thinking about the nature of the capitalist
world today — the global corporate system. It will require new
approaches, new ways of talking to people, new ways of projecting and
interpreting Marxist principles for today's times.
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